Apparently, men don't prefer 'woke' women. Surprise!
I wrote on this a while before the last time this topic came around politically, so in a lot of ways this is a sequal to that particular writing. In that case, I was referring to a few news articles that went over the interweb about how women are having trouble finding men who are successful and interested in them. The article was framed in a way to sound liek guys are becoming worst/lazier with women becoming more equal and thus make it hard for women, especially those in their 30s to find even a satisfactory date.
There was also a outcry against guys who online was saying why this is the case. For example, hard to have households where you have both parners being career focused. That makes it difficult to make household decisions if one job requires new hours/different location while the other doesn't. It also creates difficulties for finding time where both partners can actually be together. Historically speaking, having only one person being career focused allowed the other to be more flexible. Essentially, men who were "successful" would not be interested in women who were "successful" because the relationship wouldnt' work out compatibilty wise.
Furthermore, there are biological/historical trends. Men are generally wanted to be the provider or more successful of the partners. This is true intinctually for both the male and female gender. If you look at things from purely a biological/anthropological point of view, women have zero interest in men who are not "better" then them because they wouldn't make "better" babies and wouldn't add to her protection. Furthermore, men don't care much about women being successful as a 'provider' because men look for physical attributes and domestic ones for having and taking care of children.
So that was a small recap of the last time this topic came up. I should stress now, that I'm perfectly okay with how anyone choses to live there live. That also goes with the right to people live there life with the people they want to live it with. One of the many reasons I would never force my lifestyle decisions on the people around me, I'd just seperate myself from them, and if worst comes to worst, relocate. :) But thats me. Onto the new issue of this.
https://medium.com/refinery29/the-dangerous-rise-of-men-who-wont-date-woke-women-d312ba1bcd2e
Above is a link again kind of attacking men as apparently more and more men don't want to dake woke women. This particular article is going after one man in particular. So small tidbit on me, one of of the reasons I'm not soo much into debating, or discussing things like this with people any more is because it always ends up becoming hostile, insulting, ad hominin attacks and so on which always makes me very uncomfortable. I'm at the point now that if I'm around someone who i know feels different then I do on any issue, I just stay quiet. Both to avoid the conflict, but also just to keep good relations with people. Even if others aren'tw illing to listen, I still am. :)
So onto why I write about this potential controversial topic when I purposely avoid it. Its not so much to talk about this cultural trend, but more so from my own limited online experience talking with people being someone transitioning into the female role, but also currently being forced into the lgbt/trans community. Almost all of my experience with trans is that they could almost all be considered 'woke' feminist. There are nuances that are significant in making them different, but certainly the same mindset. Its one of the big differences between us. I'm much more passive, and leaning towards old fashioned myself.
When I talk to guys online, which admittidly isn't that often since I'm way more focused on my feminization right now. But before I fully started, I did do a lot of online looking just to get an idea of the market but also try to shore up some social connections. One thing I was always super careful at the beginning was to avoid negative stereotypes about who I am and what I'm looking for. For example, men being wary of "gold diggers" is very high. So I usually tried to indicate in some ways early on that I don't expect financial help from anyone on my transition. Apparently a lot of pre-trans people try to get men to pay for it and then leave them.
Another one is the negative stereotype of stay at home housewives being lazy, dead weight, sugar babies at best. So I tried to talk about how I do have secure job and my flexibility to work or do the stay at home thing. Those are just two examples. As you can see, though I'm kind of gender orientated, I was leaning more towards the modern side of things to try to maximize guys potentially interested in me. I got some responses doing that. And a lot of the time, the guys responding were very PC and careful with their words. Very careful not to say their opinion on things with worry to offend me. Very unattractive by the way.
Every once I while I do some more clearly "old fashioned" goal type of postings to see if any interested guys. Ones where I make it clear I'm willing to do the stay at home housewife thing, or work towards the trophy girl/wife priorities in life, or be in the supportive role, that kind of thing. I always get a lot more replies to that and serious ones at that. Also from guys who seem more established and secure in who they are rather then seeking outside validation. This was really a surprise to me which is why this particular current event news articles always peaks my interest and this is what motivated me to write about it the first time.
My own limited experience shows that those articles are correctly. Though I don't think exactly for the reasons those articles point out. For example, i'm in my mid 30's now which clearly is the same age as the career women/woke women and so on, but I see if I re-orient my relationship/life goals that I get much different responses. Luckily I am pretty malleable and perfectly happy going into more traditional roles if thats what makes the relationship work best, so hopefully I will not have the same issue those women do. :) In fact sometimes, I feel I may even prefer that for various reasons, such as contrast, male domination and so on.
There was also a outcry against guys who online was saying why this is the case. For example, hard to have households where you have both parners being career focused. That makes it difficult to make household decisions if one job requires new hours/different location while the other doesn't. It also creates difficulties for finding time where both partners can actually be together. Historically speaking, having only one person being career focused allowed the other to be more flexible. Essentially, men who were "successful" would not be interested in women who were "successful" because the relationship wouldnt' work out compatibilty wise.
Furthermore, there are biological/historical trends. Men are generally wanted to be the provider or more successful of the partners. This is true intinctually for both the male and female gender. If you look at things from purely a biological/anthropological point of view, women have zero interest in men who are not "better" then them because they wouldn't make "better" babies and wouldn't add to her protection. Furthermore, men don't care much about women being successful as a 'provider' because men look for physical attributes and domestic ones for having and taking care of children.
So that was a small recap of the last time this topic came up. I should stress now, that I'm perfectly okay with how anyone choses to live there live. That also goes with the right to people live there life with the people they want to live it with. One of the many reasons I would never force my lifestyle decisions on the people around me, I'd just seperate myself from them, and if worst comes to worst, relocate. :) But thats me. Onto the new issue of this.
https://medium.com/refinery29/the-dangerous-rise-of-men-who-wont-date-woke-women-d312ba1bcd2e
Above is a link again kind of attacking men as apparently more and more men don't want to dake woke women. This particular article is going after one man in particular. So small tidbit on me, one of of the reasons I'm not soo much into debating, or discussing things like this with people any more is because it always ends up becoming hostile, insulting, ad hominin attacks and so on which always makes me very uncomfortable. I'm at the point now that if I'm around someone who i know feels different then I do on any issue, I just stay quiet. Both to avoid the conflict, but also just to keep good relations with people. Even if others aren'tw illing to listen, I still am. :)
So onto why I write about this potential controversial topic when I purposely avoid it. Its not so much to talk about this cultural trend, but more so from my own limited online experience talking with people being someone transitioning into the female role, but also currently being forced into the lgbt/trans community. Almost all of my experience with trans is that they could almost all be considered 'woke' feminist. There are nuances that are significant in making them different, but certainly the same mindset. Its one of the big differences between us. I'm much more passive, and leaning towards old fashioned myself.
When I talk to guys online, which admittidly isn't that often since I'm way more focused on my feminization right now. But before I fully started, I did do a lot of online looking just to get an idea of the market but also try to shore up some social connections. One thing I was always super careful at the beginning was to avoid negative stereotypes about who I am and what I'm looking for. For example, men being wary of "gold diggers" is very high. So I usually tried to indicate in some ways early on that I don't expect financial help from anyone on my transition. Apparently a lot of pre-trans people try to get men to pay for it and then leave them.
Another one is the negative stereotype of stay at home housewives being lazy, dead weight, sugar babies at best. So I tried to talk about how I do have secure job and my flexibility to work or do the stay at home thing. Those are just two examples. As you can see, though I'm kind of gender orientated, I was leaning more towards the modern side of things to try to maximize guys potentially interested in me. I got some responses doing that. And a lot of the time, the guys responding were very PC and careful with their words. Very careful not to say their opinion on things with worry to offend me. Very unattractive by the way.
Every once I while I do some more clearly "old fashioned" goal type of postings to see if any interested guys. Ones where I make it clear I'm willing to do the stay at home housewife thing, or work towards the trophy girl/wife priorities in life, or be in the supportive role, that kind of thing. I always get a lot more replies to that and serious ones at that. Also from guys who seem more established and secure in who they are rather then seeking outside validation. This was really a surprise to me which is why this particular current event news articles always peaks my interest and this is what motivated me to write about it the first time.
My own limited experience shows that those articles are correctly. Though I don't think exactly for the reasons those articles point out. For example, i'm in my mid 30's now which clearly is the same age as the career women/woke women and so on, but I see if I re-orient my relationship/life goals that I get much different responses. Luckily I am pretty malleable and perfectly happy going into more traditional roles if thats what makes the relationship work best, so hopefully I will not have the same issue those women do. :) In fact sometimes, I feel I may even prefer that for various reasons, such as contrast, male domination and so on.
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